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Thursday, July 23, 2009

AeSI, Education and AeSI's aerospace eng

A recent mail of bishujee prompts this post. In the mail Bishnujee
asks students and graduate to not to post just the negatives of aesi.
I can understand his concern. There is also positive side of aesi. In
fact, in this blog I have posted writing of many aesi engineers, who
have hailed aesi and it's education.

I do love amaesi and I am proud of it. And I see lots of aesi
graduates do share the similar sentiments.

It's this degree and education that enables me to work for the world
second engine manufacturer. It's with the same education that i see
lot of aesi aerospace engineers doting all the major and minor
aerospace companies of India and world.

Aesi engineers are everywhere from Airbus, Rolls-Royce, HAL, NAL,
ISRO, Boeing, NASA, satyam, TCS, infosys, ansys, Honeywell, GM, GE,
Goodrich, Altair..... you name any aerospace firm and look around you
will find an aesi aerospace engineer!!

From CAD to CAE, from CFD to design, from avionics software
development to performance, every field is covered by aesi. From top
to bottom, aesi enginners are making there mark.

Click on the following links to find all those posts where aesi
aerospace engineer at some point of their career declare "we are proud
of aesi!!!"

http://my-aesi.blogspot.com/search?q=proud+of+aesi

http://my-aesi.blogspot.com/search?q=anupam

http://my-aesi.blogspot.com/search?q=pride+in+aesi

Please share your positives experience about aesi here.

As I have already mentioned earlier. Always remember, if you don't
respect your degree, no one else will!!!

Tuesday, September 02, 2008

Take pride in your AeSI degree


The moment i saw this mail and saw it was from Mr. Bishnujee. I knew i have to post it here. It needs a wider audience. It iterates the view that i have. Pride in your degree. Once you are in it. Believe in it. and Believe in yourself. As i have already pointed out here in this post that self confidence in our own degree is the need of the hour for AeSI.


Yes i do stand by the previous post of problems with AeSI degree and my unwillingness to recommend to my cousins. But i am as proud of the degree as anybody. From my experience at NAL i have told you already, AeSI guys are more than at par with the best aerospace engineers. All they lack is this belief in themselves. Many have previously pointed out this here, here and here. As i have seen this in my training days, if you are an AeSI engineer, take it to your heart that you are the best. If you have cleared AeSI honestly. You are equal to any aerospace graduate in the country or the world. And Bishnujee is the shining inspiration to us all!!!

Following is the mail of Bishnujee addressed to fellow AeSI graduates, engineers and students.


Dear AeSI Engineers & Students,
In recent times there has been sharp increase in criticism about AeSI Degree from various AeSI Engineers & Students.The pride in being AeSI Graduate is gradually fading out among newer generation of Aeronautical Engineers.I am not sure about the reasons behind it.If AeSI Graduates were not having strong Aeronautical Engineering background,they would never have received the Cayley Award 2003 from all major Industries of UK at Buckingham Palace in London on Nov 10,2003.
I know one major reason behind poor Examination result has been lack of proper training facility for AeSI students.There has not been enough pre-requisite check of students joining this programme which leads to student struggling in same.But anyway any Professional Membership Examination whether it is for AeSI or Engineering Council-UK examination for RAeS,UK where result is much lower than AeSI programme ,is never easy course work .
But as I have advised all students & Engineers coming out of AeSI to take pride in whatever you do in life.Until you take pride in whatever you do in life and feel confident that you are best in profession,you will always be lacking behind among your peers and fellow Engineers.
These are the qualities no Universities or Institutes can impart in you and you are solely responsible for developing yourself. What you learn in AeSI course work like hand calculation is the basis of Analysis of Engineering programmes which helps you decide whether the design is acceptable or not. Even if you work on Finite Element Modelling tools like Patran, Nastran,Ansys,FEMAP ,result you get should be compared using hand calculation to check whether they make sense or not and if there is any modelling error.These things you cannot do unless you are sound with you calculating and numerical skills of AeSI Course work in Solid Mechanics,Applied Mechanics,Strength of Materials,Aircraft Structures.

As I have mentioned numerous times in past that first choice after AeSI Graduation should be to work in Industry for few years,build strong foundation and based on your experience in Industry,then go for MS/MTech/ME in your career which you have been following. It helps in selecting right module which you have been working upon and you won't need further brush up while working at site or registering as Professional Engineer. Always bear in mind that AeSI Graduate with 3 years Engineering experience as full time Engineer is better than MS/MSc/MTech//ME with 1 year experience.Always Industry would prefer BE with 3 years experience in Industry first for job compared to MS or PHD with 1 or 0 year of experience.
There is no substitute for Industry experience.When I mention to you guys Industry Experience it doesn't mean working as Mechanic or Technician but only Design or Analysis Engineering whether in Aero Mechanical or Avionics Designing or Propulsion Design & testing.

Also Engineers who opting for Higher studies abroad are advised first to explore the Scholarships & Assistantship options as it might be expensive proposition doing it abroad since due differences in economy between different countries.RAeS UK administers Scholarships for MSc studies in UK.Please do bear in mind that applicants for RAeS Scholarships are not only from UK but from all across the globe with applications coming from NASA based Engineers,South African,European and Australia based Aerospace Engineers.So its highly competitive and one should be clear with his personal goals how MSc is going to benefit the Aerospace Engineer in his career.Just to mention that practical part of MSc is going to add his further knowledge acquired from AeSI won't be sufficient.Normally Industry only when its expects candidate to be very promising and excel in career is offered such competitive scholarships.Apply quite in advance before start of such course to avoid disappointment.
AIAA USA administer scholarship for MS Studies in US too.

There is no gain in criticizing AeSI Degree ,instead it would be better if you all who studying for same remain focused towards studies and do well in your exams and prospective career.Unless you have confidence and pride in yourself you will never be able to achieve any mission in life even if you get Degree from some very reputed Universities of the world leave aside AeSI.

I hope above information helps in achieving your goal.

Best wishes


As you can see he is passionate about this and i share this feeling. There's nothing wrong in expressing the wrongs of AeSI but what will ultimately matter is your pride and your self confidence. So be proud of the degree you have because if you won't then no body else will!!!






Monday, April 16, 2012

Continuing......

As promised, here's my reply to the letter I posted yesterday.

http://my-aesi.blogspot.in/2012/04/why-aesi-is-not-up-to-mark-for-me-aesi.html


Hi


I agree to what you say and if you just look through past posts on http://my-aesi.blogspot.com , you will find many instances where I or someone else have lashed out on aesi. Look at this post for example http://my-aesi.blogspot.in/2007/09/agm-draft-agenda-demand-your-rights.html


Everything you say is true. But what you don't know or realize is that we the seniors and aesiaa are doing a lot behind the scene for addressing those concerns. The heat is on. Its only when the water boils we realize the fire is on.

This post about the glowing testimonial we got for aesi graduates from director ADE is a result of lot of efforts and dedication from our side.

Yes things are still bad and needs improvement. But this is a gradual process and it will take time.

When I say be proud of your degree, I mean be proud of the efforts you have put in your degree. Be proud of the knowledge it has given you. Once you are in the industry, you will truly see the height, studying for AeSI has taken you. Look at these posts in myaesi http://my-aesi.blogspot.com/search?q=proud+aesi&max-results=100 and you will understand what I am saying.

When we realize the value of this education after we graduate. We can't expect people to understand it without experiencing it. It's a job for the bureaucrats at AeSI buts it's a way of life for us.

Building the brand of AeSI is what we at AeSIAA has chosen to do. IIT's are not only famous for the education they provide but for the things the IIT graduates do. We want to do the same for AeSI.

AeSI should be known for its graduates. And with students like you and many others from whom I regularly get mail from, I am assured the future for AeSI and its graduates is bright.


Cheers and reach for the stars.

The conversation on the posts is continuing in the comment section of the post. Head over to the post and join the conversation.

Thursday, July 14, 2005

Secrets of AeSI.

What a topic. Someone will say are you mad? Are you crazy? Who knows about this?

It’s like answering what is love? And every person has his or her own opinion. Well true and I am not denying that but then also they write on that topic then why not write on this one.


Well without further delays lets get on.

AeSI secrets are not nuclear, nor are they atomic that you have to bring out a microscope to see them they are more common which sometimes we fail to notice.

First secret is believe that AeSI is not invincible. Remove any doubts you may have that you cannot clear AeSI that you may have. Many have cleared it and many more will. All you need is a focused, dedicated preparation and no-mistake uneventful exam and you are in the safe side of AeSI. First positive step you might take is to stay focused in your preparation and in exams stay concentrated.


More often than we care to think, it’s the exam fright; exam goof ups in the examination hall that cost us the ever-elusive 50% marks than our preparation.

So jot this point in your memory.

Second secret of AeSI is there is no tough subject, no easy subject. Every subject is as important as it can be. All that is required is preparation. "Yeah yeah what do you know?” you may say, but this is coming from a guy who gave flights 4 times before he finally cleared. It only experience in AeSI that I claim that for. All you need is right positive attitude and the right focused preparation. I have seen AeSI guys preparing for flights for the 5th time but they all have one thing in common they are all negative. They don't show confidence. Oh what will happen in flights, what will they ask? No one asks oh what have I left? But will ask what if he asks instruments. They hanker more on what they don't know than knowing and learning what they don't know.

Another common mistake is i didn’t have enough time in exam. Well exams are taken to see how resourceful and time punctual you are they are there to see other than your knowledge how do you manage a pressure situation.

Third secret of AeSI is that there is no such thing that ”This will come, this will not come!!!” I don’t know what and how the exam papers are set, but one thing I have and many of you must have noticed and learned from AeSI papers is that don’t predict the topic of question that may come and not come it never works in AeSI. Believe me. I have first hand experience as in case of P2 paper in my time when my paper was an exact 70% copy of the immediate previous semester’s question!!! And take the recent paper of VMD, when the paper setter completely ignored the governor, flywheel and went off-track thus shocking every VMD examinee.

So stay away from “this will come and that will come routine”, the further you are from this argument the better it will be for you and more pleasant will be your experience with AeSI!

And last of all, While in a 7 days site seeing visit at Rai Barrelli , we were introduced to an AMAeSI engineer who was some head in IGRUA. I don’t remember his name, but I do have clear picture in my head about the middle age boyish man, grinning at us, as we gathered around him. There with a smile he announced to us, “Complete this degree, and then sky is the limit!” I believed that guy that day and I still believe him and if you do believe him, so keep working hard!

Related links

Fulfill your dreams in Aeronautics with AeSI


Confessions of an AeSI guy from HAL

I am proud of AeSI

Sunday, April 15, 2012

Why AESI is not up to the mark for me? - an aesi students view

After my recent post on update from aesiaa, I received this email from an aesi student. And I am posting his email here for giving it a wider audience.

I am changing the name for obvious reasons. But the points raised by him are genuine and worth to ponder.

I have sent a brief reply to this email to him, will post the same here, latter this week.


Now over to the student of aesi......


hello sir,

I am tony, AVIONICS stream , cleared 16 papers so far(65.2%). I don't know what to say and what to expect from this email but still you asked me to shoot you a mail, so i'm writing this. When you wrote the last blog , then i got a little carried away
and wrote things that shouldn't be said or atleast the way i put it .

I'm sorry for that, but truely sir what i wrote was straight from the heart and if you think from our student side, then it won't be that wrong if you see.

What AESIAA is doing or trying to do, is very impressive and yes every one has a life and sorry for putting it that
way. What i want is that someone could carry my words to AESI, as i
can't do it myself as long as i haven't completed it, thats it, what i meant when i wrote it . I thing AESI doesnt deserve that kind of pride 'cause of the negligence it shows to students like us,and the lady who picks up the phone she is over smart, i think, don't even know the proper rules,

Why AESI is not up to the mark for me?

1) Absolutely no motivation from their side, u don't get credit on merit , nor deserving students are offered any job after completion, so when there is no motivation how one is supposed to study,

2) very elusive policies and rules, the rules regarding training and projects in sec-b are not clearly mentioned in any written notice, u have to call AESI to seek information and that stupid lady hungs up without even listening to your queries,

3) Syllabus not upto the mark what industry seeks from avionics,
students, nor it is suitable for GATE, we have to study a hell lot extra to cover it up, its not so in case of aero-mechanical though,

4)Wont give authority to any college , like IGNOU so they can train us
the way they want and practical can be included.

5) i don't understand every organisation wants to see its growth , but why not AESI ? its going the other way round, its being decades since
the foundation of AESI, progress is nil not slow,

6) The curriculum does n't encourages quality students, most of the students who are present in AESI are simply 'cause they didn't get
chance in good colleges not like me who want to study aeronautics ,,

7) there is a huge void between passing of 20 papers and getting a job
'cause :-
a) No one knows AESI that well
b) % marks are not good of majority of students
c) no practical knowledge only theoretical, so that effects confidence of the student itself
d) to gain practical knowledge u have to get training from organisations which are mostly unpaid and u have to pay them instead, so that kills time, money ,patience and aesi is not be bothered about it

8) "u are 21 \22 yr u are an engineer and working for a good company "
chances for either of this case or both to occur is tending to 0% i believe

Sir , i have spit it out, i don't know how will you take it but i certainly can't feel proud of an organization which
lacks this qualities, i'm very sorry sir, my apology again.

-Tony


What are your views? Spell them in the comments but let's be nice.

Thursday, July 17, 2008

Booming indian aerospace - 5 tips for aesi graduates so they don't miss the bus


In recent months there is lot of talks of booming aerospace, with many mergers and acquisitions and recent announcements of HCL,CADES,Satyam, Quest etc getting premium suppliers of EADS. Many big guns of aerospace are setting shops here in India and many have partnering with the one established in India. In short there is lot of buzz in the Indian aerospace industry. So how can the aesi aeronautical engineer, the graduate from aesi make sure that he is part of this action. Here in this series of post i will elaborate on 5 things that an aesi engineer, or aerospace engineer to-be should do so that he shouldn't be left behind.


First of all this goes to everyone of the aesi weather is he graduate or is in the process of being one. Be proud of you degree. AeSI is bad, aesi examination process is not transparent, results don't match the exams, aesi bureaucrats are not supportive, well all this is there but its should remain inside. Once you are outside, its your confidence and the faith in the degree that you have done that you should exhibit. Take my word for it, if you have cleared aesi, then you are one of the best aeronautical engineer in India. Yes that's very true and i know many of the society folks will agree with it.

All we lack in aesi system is the confidence, i got this confidence when i had worked in NAL as a trainee engineer. Here i saw what society has taught me this is where my confidence in knowledge increased. And i am not the only person. Read this piece from anupam goyal, one of my batch mates in aesi. He exhibited similar sentiments when he joined the industry in HAL. Many more are there who will state you this similar thing. So first of all change your attitude. If you are doing aesi seriously, then take pride in it and come out of it with confidence.







Thursday, May 10, 2007

Confessions of an AeSI guy from HAL- another gem from OURAeSI

I really enjoy these diaries, so am posting them here in this blog too as gems of ouraesi!!!! Keep up the good work anupam!!

HAL Diary 4

Dear friends

it has been long time since last i shared my experiences with you since joining HAL as due to work and all i was a bit busy. but i received so many mails from so many friends who wanted me to continue sharing my experience.
Our true training started since i came to HAL hyderabad coz here only i got to see the work culture learning the things in practical way , interacting with so many experienced people.you also get to apply your own ideas and thoughts. but the best part of them all was being a part of so many prestigious projects like LCA , Sukhoi 30 etc directly or indirectly.

and ofcourse i also learnt the hard reality that grass is not always greener on the other side.Being in a public sector has its own disadvantages and it always doesnot work out the way u think. you have to fight for everything . you would feel that things should be done in this way but you cannt do that . initially we had to fight for everything as our sudden presence as Grade II officers was not accepted pleasantly by many. facilities provided were no better and everybody was taking their own sweet time in listening to our complaints. but once we stood united and raised our concerns upto Corporate office everything was provided overnight.

so many other problems too like workers , unions etc but in the end its all part of game. u have to make your own way .
life at hyderabd has been a bit difficult initially for most but people like me who had lot of experience of chennai and AeSI didnt face much of the trouble. in my batch about 50 trainees have come to HAL hyderabad and it really feels good to be the lone Aeronautical Engineer in the lot. infact i haven't come across anybody joining as Grade I or Grade II being aeronautical engineer. and i do feel proud when i introduce myself in the hall full of people.
being together with so many regular college students has also taught me that except from lack of practical knowledge we are no way less than them . infact i found that they all know just about their own engineering stream and that too partially. unlike them i found we know so much more and in vast subjects. even being from avionics i can talk about engines or mechanics or electrical or workshop technology . well i guess thanks to multiple attempts in "Principles of flight" and "electrical" papers. and i tell you after seeing my work and knowledge nobody questions my credentials.

and now the biggest benefit of being in public sector is the great social life. we have enough time to enjoy to relax to play . we have swimming pool to relax ,table tennis , an indoor badminton court where we play badminton even upto 12 in the night.

so it has been about 3 and a half months at HAL Hyderabad and it all has been great learning experience. our next phase of training is in bangalore at HAL management Academy from there we will go to IIT Kharagpur or chennai.

HAL is recruiting in large numbers as there is shortage of manpower . so for aesi u need just 60pc to apply . currently 400 positions are there for engineers . package offered is 5.18 lakh CTC. so u can see lot of scope for all of us.
i will keep sharing my experience.

regards
anupam goyal

Related links

Fulfill your dreams in Aeronautics with AeSI


Confessions of an AeSI guy from HAL

I am proud of AeSI

Secret of clearing AeSI!

Saturday, April 12, 2008

Friday links

Skills and tools for Avionics stream students of AeSI


Among all branch of aerospace, i think avionics has one of the highest scope in india. With so many companies in india related to work on aircraft systems. So i asked a avionics senior about the kind of skills an avionics engineer should have.


Read his advice


How important is the field and department before your choose your training?


After AeSI, most of the AeSI folks follow this trend of training, some provided by AeSI and some seek on their own initiative. But in the run to have some training they tend to choose whatever comes their way with disregard to the field and the department....


Read more




I am proud of AeSI and AMAeSI


One thing that i realized while i was doing training in National Aerospace Labs was that i am proud of AeSI and the stuff it has prepared me for. IN aerospace it felt that aesi has prepared me better than any folks i encountered in NAL. Similar is the condition of fellow friend Anupam who went to HAL


Read his experiences and be inspired...

Saturday, June 04, 2005

Fulfill your dreams in Aeronautics with AeSI - Pearls of OURAESI

As the description of the blog says, this blog is my way of contributing and commenting on the happening of OURAeSI club, India's first and biggest congress of AMAeSI students and aerospace community!!!

So I thought why not paste some of the good posts of the club here in this blog?
Well the advantages are many, most of the times this pearls (which I would like them to be called) do get burdened and hard to find under hundreds of emails of jobs post and many forwards in the club. So let this blog be the place where we pate those gems for easy retrievals!!! Sounds fine to me.

And so here I go.

This post is by Mr. Sudhir Joshi Sr.Design Engineer Infotech(Pratt & Whitney Division), himself an AeSI'ians! I like this post and have seen many of my friends in the category Mr. Sudhir Joshi mentioned. Its nice to read such stuff and so here is it for all my blog readers!!!

Dear All

I have gone thru the mail below and felt that still some kind of a gap in
communication is missing.

some may be very positive towards A.M.Ae.S.I and some may be 50:50, and some
felt its worth to do after all its not B.E rather equivalent.

yes I understand if you have less than 60% in aggregate its tough to get job
but this does not apply only to A.M.Ae.S.I its applies every where , if you
have a B.Tech Degree less than 65% its of no use.

We fell good to be Ae.S.I graduates as it has got an excellent recognition
compare to a graduate from any other Engineering colleges .

Getting 60 % in A.M.Ae.S.I is equivalent to 80% of B.Tech.

you will finds A.M.Ae.S.I grduates everywhere around the world from leading
organization like Boeing,Rolls Royce, G.E, Pratt& Whitney, DRDO, HAL, ISRO,
VSSC, ADA, TCS, Honeywell, Infotech, Quest, Textron, Snecma, GoodRich.

I'll say its difficult for a B.Tech to get a job rather its very easy for an
Ae.s.I to get a job if he is having 60% and now a days when you have a
common platform like OurAeSI its very easy to get 60%+ , where all your
doubts and carifications can be cleared.

Even we can arrange some sort of materials if some one required.
Its a platform for youngster to boost there knowledge in the Aerospace field
and make India as an Aerospace Hub.

I sugest,

1. Getting an idea to join Aerospace itself is a great. An ordinary person
will never think in this field

2. Doing this from Aeronautical Society of India is of Great value be sure
and have full confidence in yourself and We are sure ,with a positive
approach nothing in this world in impossible even the word impossible spells
I M POSSIBLE.

3. you need not have to work like horse , just work hard as usual, don't
neglect the things , be specific , always have positive approach , then at
last you will come out with a Degree that will fulfill your dreams,


Best Wishes to ALL Aero Guys.

" Confidence is the most important single factor in the game, and no matter how great your natural talent, there is only one way to obtain and sustain it: work." Jack Nicklaus

well guys and gals, this was my choice of a pearl, if you have your own and want to mention is so please drop me a line, I will surely give it a thought!!!

Related links
Confessions of an AeSI guy from HAL
I am proud of AeSI
Secret of clearing AeSI!
Skills and tools for avionics stream AeSI students
How to eliminate Worries and confusions during training
3 suggestions from an avionics engineer for AeSI students

Wednesday, April 11, 2012

Connect

On the post on aesiaa update, sumantra has this comment.


sir, i would suggest if there is provision to speak out rather stay
dumb and listen to the person standing on the podium , please someone
gather the courage and point out the negligence of AESI on our
students members, we are asked to fell proud of our board , how is it
possible to do something when you are not doing from your heart? this
negligence of AESI and a total revision of the entire curriculum have
to be brought out , to make us student fell proud in what we say and
what we do, other wise it would just be an alumni meeting not a
effective conversation,
and if possible try to broadcast it through youtube or other means, so
that student all over india are motivated,,,,,,,,,


Well this comment just made me realize that people don't know what
people associated with aesiaa are really doing.

Let's zoom out a little.

Aesiaa is a not for profit alumni association formed by group of aesi
graduates. Aesiaa does not pay them. They work as volunteers and pitch
in their time and effort while carrying on with their daily life.

It's very easy to dismiss the efforts if you don't see this dedication.

In the agm every aesi member in Bangalore got the invitation to
attend, but just a handful of aesi graduates turned up.

And about not being heard. Well you can't change a system in one day.
Two years back aesi didn't even recognize aesi alumi association but
efforts are continuing. Now they are commending our work.

Those seniors who are part of this are doing their bit, slowly and
steadly we are becoming a force to recon with.


But as I said earlier, this isn't our job. We have a life outside aesi
and unlike many other graduates, we have not chosen to disconnect from
aesi once we graduate. Instead we have chosen to stay connected and
connect everyone involved.

YouTube video. Good idea. But as we said we have limited hands and
more things to do.

What we need is more people joining this initiative. So if you haven't
joined the initiative, do so now. Shoot me a mail.

Thursday, August 30, 2007

Three things I've learned in NAL - revisited

For those you, who might not know, after AeSI, I did training in NAL under Dr. Ramamurthy and during that time I wrote many blog entries though my reliance mobile phone. This is one of those….

 

This might be my first entry or a rarest entry on my experience in NAL. Well the three things are work hard; no work is small and be a delivery boy. That is, deliver what is expected of you. Come to an organization like this and you will realize the importance of aesi. You'll realize how it has lifted you without your knowing.

 

...You'll realize the truth when someone says "Gadhe ko ghora banati hai aesi" Don't want to say that AeSI's way is right but after coming and hearing by your own ears, you see the truth in word that Mr. Bishnujee uses for aesi graduates. Specialist! Yes it’s true. Maybe seeing the results and facing uncertain exams don't inspire this feeling, but trust me; once you are in this side of the river you will definitely see my point. Anyway hope here's wishing that the reforms aesi is doing now do bear fruits and do make one feel proud of your degree while doing it.

 

Well this was my post in the http://my-aesi.blogspot.com in January 2006. As you will notice the post is not complete. Since at that time I had reliance phone and I used it to send my posts via its mobile internet and it never allowed more than 160 character, so while sending posts with breaks, the flow broke and I missed out the points. So i thought of revisiting the topic.

 

As mentioned earlier, working hard, do all work required of you and being a delivery boy was what I learnt from NAL. I have touched about the realization of the knowledge that i gathered during AeSI only after coming to NAL. But I missed out the delivery boy stuff.

 

Well by that I meant. When you are given a task, deliver the result not an excuse. As my previous mentor in NAL used to say, "Give me results not excuses!"  Push yourself here in your training days and you will reap rich rewards!  Whenever we mentioned that we don't this software, he always chided us “You are young, learn it and deliver!!" So NAL made cemented the delivery in me. 

 

So folks if you are doing training at any of the institution, be diligent and make the most of the time you are there. Sometimes the tasks assigned to you might look un-engineer type, mundane and plain simple, but remember AeSI might have given you the aero skills and knowledge but the social, writing and other skills you will develop here in your training working among real people, real work and in real world!!

 

Please share your experience in comments!!!

 

To read the original post click these links

 

http://my-aesi.blogspot.com\2006\01\three-things-ive-learned-in-nal-part.html

http://my-aesi.blogspot.com\2006\01\three-things-ive-learned-in-nal-part_17.html

http://my-aesi.blogspot.com\2006\01\three-things-ive-learned-in-nal.html

 

 

Sunday, April 08, 2012

AeSIAA update

A quick update on the recent commendation that AeSIAA received at the recently concluded AeSI Bangalore AGM.

Dear Fellow Alumnus,
It is my great pleasure to announce that AeSIAA has received a tremendous attention and support during the recently concluded AGM of AeSI Bangalore Branch and received the commendation from Shri T Mohana Rao, Chairman, AeSI BB.

Shri Abhishek Burman, Hon. President, AeSIAA and Shri Rakesh Kumar, Hon Secretary, AeSIAA received the Honors on Behalf of AeSI Alumni Association.

Commendation Reads like this,

"We place on record our deep sense of appreciation for excellent services rendered by you in furthering the cause of Aeronautical Fraternity through Aeronautical Society of India, Bangalore Branch. .................T Mohana Rao, Chairman, AeSI BB"


Friends, this is just the beginning. With your continued support and endevours, we are likely to excel further in our activity. We need to create a brand of AeSI like IITs/IIMs and we the graduates are the ingredients of this. Each one of us in our respective organisations should feel proud and be the ambassador of AeSIAA. We need to map all our alumnus across all organisations and bring them into single umbrellas for mutual benefit of all. Let pledge to do so. Help AeSIAA, Help yourself by joining and taking active interest in furthering the cause of Aeronautical Fraternity through our AeSIAA.

With this motto in mind we are planning a general body meeting and requesting participation of all AeSI Grads/alumnus settled/working in and around Bangalore in our AGM on Saturday, May 12, 2012 at AeSI Bangalore Branch.

Kindly spare your valuable time and be the part of the ongoing efforts of AeSIAA creating BRAND AeSIAA. The agenda and notice of the meeting will follow soon. We also seek generous donations for creating funds for awards in the following category like Distinguished Alumni Award, Best Students etc. The same will be debated and discussed during the scheduled AGM. All are welcome to give their valuable inputs.

The awards can be named after the donors if the donations are sufficient. Alumnus settled abroad or with High net worth are requested to join this privileged move.

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*Warm Regards,*
*
*
*Rakesh Kumar*
*Hon. Secretary*
*AeSI Alumni Association (AeSIAA)*
*AeSI Building, Suranjan Das Road*
*New Thipasandra Post, Bangalore-560 075*
*Tel: 080-2505 8142
*Email: secretary.aesiaa@gmail.co
*website: http://www.aesiaa.org

Saturday, August 09, 2008

Confidence + degree + skills = job


recipe for landing a jobIn my earlier post I have mentioned the above formula and said after AeSI, this is the recipe for landing a job. I ventured that if one can develop this 3 while studying for AeSI then you need no training and he or she is ready for the job,

In this post I would like to talk more about it and go in depth of what I meant by each of the term.


Confidence!

What is confidence? Confidence is your belief in yourself. It’s the belief that you are able to take on the work assigned to you. It’s the belief that you are able to apply your knowledge to get results. So how can an AeSI student build his confidence? First it’s passing his or her degree, that's one major confidence booster. IF you have passed with honest effort, you are already on your way of being confidence. It comes with preparation.

For me passing 4 subjects at one go was a major boost to my confidence. In section B, first semester I took up propulsion 1, 2, 3 and aerodynamics 1 as my subjects and studied for them, and did a marathon study along with Natrajan sir!!! And after my last semester, without waiting for the results to be announced I came to Bangalore and joined NAL as an unpaid training. This was best decision that I took in regards to AeSI and it really paved and concreted my confidence. It showed me the knowledge that AeSI has imparted us.

Confidence comes by preparation. By honestly studying for the exams, and getting all fundamentals and basics in your fingertips. Confidence comes with seeing the results of your efforts.

Wikipedia has a good post regarding how to build confidence. Read it and most importantly apply the points!!


The one I liked most is
"Try to make yourself talk positively at all times. When you hear yourself saying you can't do something, stop and say you can. Unless you try, you will never know whether you are able to or not."

Degree
The next part of the equation is degree. Complete the AMAeSI degree. It will enable you to say that you are one of the best aeronautical engineer in india!! Yes Read it here, here and here. It is this degree that enables these persons to say that they are best in the world. And then we all have the biggest inspiration Mr. Bishnujee Singh. He began from AeSI degree. As Shah Rukh Khan says in the recent HP advertisements, think big. Once you have made your mind that you are pursuing the AMAeSI degree. Forget the fact how tactless, careless, unsympathetic AeSI folks are . Be proud of your degree. It’s the only thing that should matter. As I said in my earlier post “tips for getting employed in the aerospace boom”, taking pride in your degree is the most important thing IF you don't respect it NOBODY else will.

Skills.
A company requires person who are not only knowledgeable but the one who can apply that knowledge to some practical work out of which the company benefits. And this is where your skills came. So as mentioned in post titled “things to do in your last semester”, make it a point to know what are the skills that the companies are looking for and began building them in your AeSI days. This is the most important area that you have to work for. In my case I have begun earlier, I knew I had a knack of programming so I began with that skill and set a daily 30 minutes goal for that. I developed it so that it became my prime reason for getting the project trainee job in NAL. I didn't have access to CATIA or other design and analysis software like NASTRAN, ANSYS then, but if I had I am sure I would have chalked out a similar plan for that... So most important thing AeSI students can do first know what skills are needed and when they are in last or 2nd last semester of AeSI, they should begin developing them. Set small challenge and daily goals to accomplish them.


Well this completes the recipe.. If you have all the 3 you are job ready and can hit send to send your resumes along with cover letters and I am sure there's nothing that can stop you from getting that job.

What are your thoughts to this? Do you think there is some other ingredient to it that I missed? Please do share your opinions in the comments.






Sunday, August 31, 2008

The Problems with AeSI degree!!!

In Orkut's AeSI's community, Mr. Nilesh has posted some valid points which I couldn't resist myself in posting here. In this points he states his view on why AMAeSI degree is not the right choice.



My views are similar and if someone will ask me point blank "If I were your brother, will you recommend this degree to me?" My answer will be no.



Don't get me wrong, I am proud of the degree, I have worked for it and have attained it and have told many times that aerospace engineers coming out of AeSI are the best Indian aerospace professionals that you will meet. Many more people have accentuated this fact, but then the way whole examination system and what Nilesh has rightly put  "Erratic question papers, puzzling evaluation and results " I don't think i can recommend my brother or cousin to face that. Sometimes it feels worse than a lottery.



Anyway, here's what Nilesh has to say.....



 


Hello All,

This is not against anybody neither I want to argue with anybody here. I think new students who wish to join this course should know some facts and figures before they join this, unlike many of us who didn't knew anything at all.


Major Disadvantages


1. It is not exactly like a regular BE degree in spite is has been given "equivalent" to BE status. This creates lot of problems.


2. Though the course is not "correspondence" officially it is neither a full time regular course.


3. No strategy on examinations, how many students to be passed or about the criteria for evaluation/grace markings.


4. No set up for Jobs to students.


5. Erratic question papers, puzzling evaluation and results add to its uselessness.


6. No guarantee of how many years you will need to do this degree.


7. Even after you pass out life is a struggle for first year at least.


Now considering the Industry in India, and the job scene as well as admission scene at various engineering colleges/universities, getting job after a "regular degree" has become very easy. Many companies come on the campus and students are getting jobs in their third years.


So ,


1, If you are a good student then why do you wish to take the path which is not only difficult but uncertain where you could have a safe and successful career otherwise.


2. If you think you are not a good student, then beware, this isn't an easy course.


Two main reasons i see many people take this course are


a.) its cheap


b.) Admission is very easy.


If your main reason is above the two, rethink before you join the course.


I do not mean to discourage students who are already doing or wish to join this course, but its always good to know facts how ever bitter they are.


All the best,


Nilesh.



He also adds



But a simple analysis can give you a picture of AeSI degree.

1. Campus jobs:


There are around 27 states in India, so around the 50 technical universities/institutes with hundreds of Engineering colleges in each state. Just try to find how many colleges in your city offer campus placements. See if prestigious/popular and renowned colleges offer campus placement. So in short check whether you are in majority or minority?


2. Passing it in time:


How many students clear this course in fours years every term?? Check out the stats.. during my time (batch) I know of only 1 person who did it in 4 years against around 1000 students who registered. So, does that mean all the 999 are incapable of doing AeSI?? and if so then the next question you should ask is are you in that one or 999 persons?


3. About AeSI administration:


I don't need to say anything on this. It's worst admin of all I have seen till date. Besides, try contacting few companies/seniors to know how many companies/organizations accept this course as a BE course and give jobs to AeSI people.





Anyway's, I am not here to benefit myself from anybody doing or not doing AeSI. I sincerely feel many people lack awareness and this are my two cents.


Wish you guys all the best.



So tell me, what do you think?




Saturday, July 19, 2008

Booming indian aerospace - tips so you don't miss the bus part-2


In this series i am talking about five tips that aesi graduates should do to be part of the aerospace boom that is happening in India. The global aerospace industry is looking at india and china as the engines of growth. So here's the second tip so that you don't left behind. This is the second tip for aesi graduates. Read the first tip here.


Second thing that an aesi graduate should realize is that your strength is your course and the study you did, so be the best in it. By being the best i mean that all the basic questions and topics of flights, propulsion, and aerodynamics should be at your fingertips. While in aesi, don't leave the principle of flights book. Have it as your constant companion. It covers most of the questions that you will face in interviews. So have your basics ready. This is what gururaj also said once.

Being proud of your degree is good but lacking of basis is serious disadvantage. So be strong in them. For a fresher and also for seasoned aesi graduates, the most common interview question will be on his or her favorite subject, so make one subject your favorite. By making i mean, delve into it and have the basics of that subjects in your finger tips,. As a propulsion engineer, mine favorite subject is thermodynamics and i have to be prepared to answer all the basic questions that can come up from this subject.

Don't make a big mistake in this. Capitalize on your strengths How to do this?

3 step plan that i can suggest and i personally use to stay updated in my basics of the subject mentioned above.

Use 30 minutes daily to read an aerospace topic, Read only the basics, like thermodynamics, basic aerodynamics, mach number and all that. Since you will be reading basic so 30 minus is sufficient. ASM folks can read asm subject basics.

Share your knowledge, answer questions in ouraesi and aesi groups. Put some different perspective of the topic you read and discuss of share an interesting or otherwise insight on the things you studied. Use the groups. They are all fellow aesi folks and they will appreciate and learn from it and in turn you will strengthen the topic in your mind.

Play around with an idea and toss it in different direction, apply in the things you see and do during the day. This will fix the data in your mind and your mind will be more receptive the next time you hear a term regarding the topics you read. For example, my most recent topic was torque. So whenever i am seeing things i am relating this topic.

Well this are the steps that one can use to keep his basics strong and keep them from rusting. Use your imagination. Its very powerful tool and if you can use it fairly its can take you higher than any thing you can think.


So to sum up, being prepared is the another thing that an AeSI graduate or student should be doing to catch the aerospace boom! The previous step instilled self confidence and this will show that the confidence is based on solid foundation. So keep your foundation strong!

Please give in your suggestions that i might have missed out in the comments.





Friday, January 05, 2007

I am proud to be aesian - gem of OURAeSI

Well I am reproducing a mail from my friend anupam goyal who just got into HAL. He was always the talkative fellow among us. And has a way to talk straight. That’s the reason I am reposting the mail in this blog, because he so right. Many of us who have come and joined some organization have the similar feeling and the line I like the most is “"I am proud to be aesian". And its rings so true.



Believe me coming from anupam, it’s a compliment. So folks be proud in whatever you are doing. Study hard and the sky is limitless for you all…..


The letter follows…………

Dear friends
Happy new year to all of you!!!!!! And its great pleasure for me to inform you that i have joined hindustan aeronautics ltd (HAL) as management trainee along with 6 other Aesians.
this is i think the first time that hal has taken so many AeSIans together as management and design trainees. and i think it is the great opportunity for us to prove that more of us shud be taken and AeSIans are lot better than others.and we have started the process as i have written this in our feedback form that more of aesians should be taken rather than taking hundreds of mech and electronics engineer.
and also from now onwards i wud like to share my experience with all of u specially the youngsters and the people who are about to past as life of an AeSian after graduating. this may give u some of the idea what lies ahead when u pass out.

it has been 3 days since we have joined and HAL is providing evrything a fresher cud ask for.we are to be imparted one year training at various places like IITs IIMs and so many places. we are provided excellent rooms in guest houses and provided food and transport etc during our training.the first 3 days from jan 1 2007 have been all introduction and induction programs. and here while interacting with so many regular college people i realised that we society students are much more superior than them in terms of knowledge. thge questions asked by them like what is difference between "aerospace aerodynamics and aeronautics" was sure enough to make us laugh. and first time i can say that "i am proud to be aesian".
i will continue narrating my experiencing as we move on and i wud just like to add that dont feel inferior as we are better than everybody. and always say i am proud to be an AeSIan.

regards
anupam goyal


Related links

Fulfill your dreams in Aeronautics with AeSI


Confessions of an AeSI guy from HAL

Secret of clearing AeSI!

Friday, July 30, 2010

Gifts are easy, choices can be hard!!

Following is the commencement address given by Jeff Bezos founder,
president, and CEO of Amazon.com, as delivered to the Class of 2010 of
Princeton University!!

Really inspiring. This one is for all the AeSI students who will
graduate this year !

So grab a cup of coffee, read and be inspired.

As a kid, I spent my summers with my grandparents on their ranch in
Texas. I helped fix windmills, vaccinate cattle, and do other chores.
We also watched soap operas every afternoon, especially "Days of our
Lives." My grandparents belonged to a Caravan Club, a group of
Airstream trailer owners who travel together around the U.S. and
Canada. And every few summers, we'd join the caravan. We'd hitch up
the Airstream trailer to my grandfather's car, and off we'd go, in a
line with 300 other Airstream adventurers. I loved and worshipped my
grandparents and I really looked forward to these trips. On one
particular trip, I was about 10 years old. I was rolling around in the
big bench seat in the back of the car. My grandfather was driving. And
my grandmother had the passenger seat. She smoked throughout these
trips, and I hated the smell.

At that age, I'd take any excuse to make estimates and do minor
arithmetic. I'd calculate our gas mileage -- figure out useless
statistics on things like grocery spending. I'd been hearing an ad
campaign about smoking. I can't remember the details, but basically
the ad said, every puff of a cigarette takes some number of minutes
off of your life: I think it might have been two minutes per puff. At
any rate, I decided to do the math for my grandmother. I estimated the
number of cigarettes per days, estimated the number of puffs per
cigarette and so on. When I was satisfied that I'd come up with a
reasonable number, I poked my head into the front of the car, tapped
my grandmother on the shoulder, and proudly proclaimed, "At two
minutes per puff, you've taken nine years off your life!"

I have a vivid memory of what happened, and it was not what I
expected. I expected to be applauded for my cleverness and arithmetic
skills. "Jeff, you're so smart. You had to have made some tricky
estimates, figure out the number of minutes in a year and do some
division." That's not what happened. Instead, my grandmother burst
into tears. I sat in the backseat and did not know what to do. While
my grandmother sat crying, my grandfather, who had been driving in
silence, pulled over onto the shoulder of the highway. He got out of
the car and came around and opened my door and waited for me to
follow. Was I in trouble? My grandfather was a highly intelligent,
quiet man. He had never said a harsh word to me, and maybe this was to
be the first time? Or maybe he would ask that I get back in the car
and apologize to my grandmother. I had no experience in this realm
with my grandparents and no way to gauge what the consequences might
be. We stopped beside the trailer. My grandfather looked at me, and
after a bit of silence, he gently and calmly said, "Jeff, one day
you'll understand that it's harder to be kind than clever."

What I want to talk to you about today is the difference between gifts
and choices. Cleverness is a gift, kindness is a choice. Gifts are
easy -- they're given after all. Choices can be hard. You can seduce
yourself with your gifts if you're not careful, and if you do, it'll
probably be to the detriment of your choices.

This is a group with many gifts. I'm sure one of your gifts is the
gift of a smart and capable brain. I'm confident that's the case
because admission is competitive and if there weren't some signs that
you're clever, the dean of admission wouldn't have let you in.

Your smarts will come in handy because you will travel in a land of
marvels. We humans -- plodding as we are -- will astonish ourselves.
We'll invent ways to generate clean energy and a lot of it. Atom by
atom, we'll assemble tiny machines that will enter cell walls and make
repairs. This month comes the extraordinary but also inevitable news
that we've synthesized life. In the coming years, we'll not only
synthesize it, but we'll engineer it to specifications. I believe
you'll even see us understand the human brain. Jules Verne, Mark
Twain, Galileo, Newton -- all the curious from the ages would have
wanted to be alive most of all right now. As a civilization, we will
have so many gifts, just as you as individuals have so many individual
gifts as you sit before me.

How will you use these gifts? And will you take pride in your gifts or
pride in your choices?

I got the idea to start Amazon 16 years ago. I came across the fact
that Web usage was growing at 2,300 percent per year. I'd never seen
or heard of anything that grew that fast, and the idea of building an
online bookstore with millions of titles -- something that simply
couldn't exist in the physical world -- was very exciting to me. I had
just turned 30 years old, and I'd been married for a year. I told my
wife MacKenzie that I wanted to quit my job and go do this crazy thing
that probably wouldn't work since most startups don't, and I wasn't
sure what would happen after that. MacKenzie (also a Princeton grad
and sitting here in the second row) told me I should go for it. As a
young boy, I'd been a garage inventor. I'd invented an automatic gate
closer out of cement-filled tires, a solar cooker that didn't work
very well out of an umbrella and tinfoil, baking-pan alarms to entrap
my siblings. I'd always wanted to be an inventor, and she wanted me to
follow my passion.

I was working at a financial firm in New York City with a bunch of
very smart people, and I had a brilliant boss that I much admired. I
went to my boss and told him I wanted to start a company selling books
on the Internet. He took me on a long walk in Central Park, listened
carefully to me, and finally said, "That sounds like a really good
idea, but it would be an even better idea for someone who didn't
already have a good job." That logic made some sense to me, and he
convinced me to think about it for 48 hours before making a final
decision. Seen in that light, it really was a difficult choice, but
ultimately, I decided I had to give it a shot. I didn't think I'd
regret trying and failing. And I suspected I would always be haunted
by a decision to not try at all. After much consideration, I took the
less safe path to follow my passion, and I'm proud of that choice.

Tomorrow, in a very real sense, your life -- the life you author from
scratch on your own -- begins.

How will you use your gifts? What choices will you make?

Will inertia be your guide, or will you follow your passions?

Will you follow dogma, or will you be original?

Will you choose a life of ease, or a life of service and adventure?

Will you wilt under criticism, or will you follow your convictions?

Will you bluff it out when you're wrong, or will you apologize?

Will you guard your heart against rejection, or will you act when you
fall in love?

Will you play it safe, or will you be a little bit swashbuckling?

When it's tough, will you give up, or will you be relentless?

Will you be a cynic, or will you be a builder?

Will you be clever at the expense of others, or will you be kind?

I will hazard a prediction. When you are 80 years old, and in a quiet
moment of reflection narrating for only yourself the most personal
version of your life story, the telling that will be most compact and
meaningful will be the series of choices you have made. In the end, we
are our choices. Build yourself a great story. Thank you and good luck!

Source: http://www.princeton.edu/main/news/archive/S27/52/51O99/index.xml

Tuesday, December 27, 2005

meeting

 


As promised I  would  to  write  something on my meeting with Mr. Bishnujee Singh.

This I am doing for the benefits of the people who were not able to meet him  due  
exams or  other reasons.

Since so many days have passed and I can't  boast of a crystal memory, so all I will 
pen is what I have retained and remember. Another thing is the lettering may not be 
exact what Mr. Bishnujee said  but the essence is same.

Clad in a white t-shirt with Boeing 787's front view jutting out  from the chest region, he 
sat in one corner of his hotel room in front of his open laptop, while we, four of us , 
circled him.

Introductions  apart  he  moved on to the themes  and the discussions that  were 
interesting  revealing and inspiring. 

Here I try to present  his advice on various things.

On finding jobs:

Don't  only  just  go for the newspaper jobs, These  mostly come out at last resort or as  supplements. So  when you are ready, just send in your  resumes direct to the hiring  managers!!!!!  Reference do  play a part so select it carefully.


On general mood of the aesi people.

Change your attitude, be proud of what you are doing.  Know and believe its one of the 
best course that  you are doing. Know your worth. And  instead of looking  on the 
negative people of aesi  but see  bright  sides  like anshuman etc and so  many others  who  are and have achieved  success. Face the sun and all shadows will fall behind!!!!!


On studying:

Read  entirely. read with passion and with full dedications. Studying for AMAeSI is a full  time job. Devote your full time to it. Save yourself from part time jobs craze unless it  helps in your professional development.

On Mtech:

As  my views in ouraesi, its  more important to  get  some good experience in some 
blue-chip  companies than studying  oceans and HR in IIT's!!!!  The  world  comes to 
India not to get a manager but and engineer. So  get those skills.

On studying abroad,

Well  I insist on UK  because its much more easier to  get there and study than US 
and one should  have a minimum  work exposure so that they don't feel alien  to the ms  courses offered!!! 


Well  that's  it for  now. This is the only  thing  I remember right now, will write back if I 
remember something else. And  yes,  as I said the wording may not be exact same 
but  the essence is totally same.

But  before I close I would  like to add  a thanks to  Mr. Bishnujee for the time  and the 
effort he took for all of us.  Its  great to see a person making a difference. And like the  
Boeing 787 soaring on his t shirt, I wish him all the best for his  career and wish it to 
soar new heights!!!!

 
 

Thursday, February 03, 2011

AeSI graduate, what's your strength?

This was the same topic my friend was discussing last night. He is
taking interviews these days and was sharing his experience of facing
AeSI graduates in these interviews.

All AeSI graduates, he mentioned, were proud of AeSI and confident in
the fact that they are better in the fundamentals.

But that's not the point. You have to be confident in the fundamentals
rather than confidant of the fact that you are better than regular
college graduates.

Your strength as AeSI graduate is the fundamentals. You don't have the
marks that regular college graduates can show. Your 65% is no match to
90% that they can bring.

What separates you from others is your fundamentals? Make them strong.
Show them in the interviews.

If you are in propulsion, never falter at question "what is bypass
ratio?" or on entropy.

Find more interview related posts via this link http://my-aesi.blogspot.com/search?q=interview

Monday, January 01, 2007

Links to great posts

Career
What do I do about the gaps in my resume ?
How to write successful resume?
Resume tips from my experience
10 reasons why your resume may get rejected?
10 great resume writing tips from the Emurse blog
Can you offer me a job ?
How to prepare for an interview after AeSI?
what to write in a cover letter ?
Tips for Telephonic interveiw ?
What hiring managers hate in your resume?
Resume your first impression ?
Resumes and coverletter?
50 common interveiw questions?
List of Various job sites?


Training
Three things I've learned in NAL - revisited
Three things you must give a thought before you embark on your training mission!!
What i got from my training in NAL?
Confused about Training after AMAeSI?
Working as a Trainee is an oportunity, utilize it...


AeSI gems
Always invest in your curiosities ?
I am prooud of AeSI and AMAeSI ?
Are you seeing the BIG picture?
Why learn programming?
Scope of FORTRAN ?
I am proud to be an AeSI'an
Why learn FORTRAN ?
Big Secret of AeSI
Fullfill your dreams with AeSI




Study/Exams

Tips and skill set advice for Avionics people
Know about GPA required for studying aborad after AMAeSI.
Want to do Ms and Turbomachinery in UK and US
5 great tips for studying for AMAeSI exams?
NASTRAN what???????????
Solidworks or Catia ?
MATLAB ? Who created it ?
My ten hours with ANSYS?
Advantages of studying in library?
Bhaiya how to study Propulsion-1
What is ANSYS? Tutorials...
What is CATIA?
What is NASTRAN?
6 great tips for AMAeSi exams?
4 things to remember for effective revisions for exams
6 lessons i learnt while in GIE?

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