Friday, September 28, 2007

Update about OURAeSI for AeSI people

  • Members: 960
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Last updated on: 9/27/2007 10:49:43 AM



I like statistics and enjoy playing and tinkering with numbers. Since this time Aeronautical society of India robbed me the please by withholding the pass and fail percentage, so I thought of tinkering with the numbers that I have from the OURAeSI club. So I gathered them at one place so that you can have a better nay a bird’s eye view of what’s happening in OURAeSI.


This is the raw data I gathered. So make your own conclusions.


We are 960+ strong community. Would like to see it cross 1000 mark soon. It’s been long that I am seeing this number.



Thursday, September 27, 2007

3 suggestions from an avionics engineer for AeSI students

As you might know, I am not an avionics guy. It's propulsion that I have craved and marked my distinction. So when I came across several queries on avionics related stuff. First thing I did was to send a mail to my seniors who I know are into avionics and working in reputed avionics firms doing avionics related.

So Kapil bhaiya is one of them and he is in HONEYWELL, for which I can safely say "Honeywell, a dream company for an avionics guy!" So he was kind enough to reply me on 3 things that he thought avionics students of AeSI should do.

In India, all companies related to Avionics are doing software related projects. So one must have a good c and c++ knowledge... As you might remember in my earlier post I also noticed this same fact. He also added " Avionics "Ada" language is also there but one can’t learn that out side. Development is very rare only in DRDO labs." So I guess he suggested that if you get training in this labs then its good to work on that ADA!

Second thing he noted is that Avionics is all about Navigation and Instruments. So, one should know these instruments. Read about them. Avionic books are filled with them so carry on with it.

Thirdly he pointed out that whatever be your stream, avionics, aerodynamics or propulsion. At the basic level you are leveled as aerospace engineer, so a good knowledge of principles of flight is expected from you. So keep your principle of flights book handy and carry. This is the place where most of the interview’s technical questions will come from....

Well this are the 3 things he said that one must have so folks, thought the advice is specific to avionics folks but every aeronautical society of India student can benefit from it. Right from your study day’s one can hone this things.

Good luck folks and big thank you to Kapil bhaiya for sharing his views. Thanks a lot!!

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Aerodynamics eBook

I wish I had this kind of material available online for my area of interest; Propulsion. Anyway rejoice aerodynamics folks this site is for you.

It’s an online book, dealing with good aerodynamic stuff. Even people studying Principles of flight can delve into this online eBook.

I was not able to check the length and width of this book, anyone who does that, do let us know if the site is really worth it and what are the things you liked and didn't liked.

Aerodynamics eBook

Okay then carry on... Visit it... and benefit from it

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Tuesday, September 25, 2007

Wealth of knowledge in groups's file section

I don't know how many of you know about this or how many of you have explored this. There is a wealth of notes in OURAeSI files section. This is a section where the members post things that they feel are important for the AeSI folks.

You will find aesi’s question paper, study material, copy of AeSI syllabus etc at this place. Just have a look. You might get what you want!

So do check out the section

There you will find material regarding flights, performance, propulsions and many others

Please note you might need to be logged into the group to access the files section.

Do utilize it and upload any thing that you think will be helpful to the members.

More: Please look at these links for more info.

Ebooks for aerospace
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How to eliminate Worries and confusions during training

What to write in your cover letter?

Tell me which one will give you better response.

Case 1:

You found a good article from net; you printed it out and gave it to your friend or roommate. Hey read this.

Case 2:

You found a good article. You printed it and gave you friends to read, but before giving it you told him what is in the article and what excited you to share this with him?

So in which case will you get a better response from your friend? The answer is obvious; the second one.

Let’s analyze why? Since you gave an intro, your friend got a direction to know what to look for; your introduction paved the path for him and when he noticed the point you mentioned, he got a hook on it. So that way he is before hand well informed about what to see in the article.

So you see, sending a resume without cover letter is just like that. A resume introduced through cover letter is much more effective in communicating and connecting you than a single bland resume.

This not only distinguises you but also paves a way for you to set the direction in which the employer should look when he sees your resume.

So a cover letter is must. Don't ever send a bare resume if you want a response.

So what are the things you should include in cover letter?

First of all, state for what position you are applying for. Include it with a sentence that shows why you consider yourself competent for the post.

Second paragraph should mention the skills that you want to highlight from your resume, to the employer. Put it in such a way to show how that skill is conforming to his requirement.

Thirdly point out the work experience if you have any that shows and is related to the work requirement. Emphasize in quantitative terms.

Lastly in the concluding remark state why you feel your skills and work experience fit the requirement.

While writing cover letter, always try to include something about the company, so that the recruiter knows that you know about the company and the work.

Don't over flow your cover letter with al the skills that you have; just use it to give him a hint of what’s in store in the resume.

A successful cover letter is the one which emphasizes the right skills and piques the interest of the employer to see the resume.

Best of luck

Write a successful resume!

Every thing on my-aesi regarding coverletters

Find opening in OURAeSI

Friday, September 21, 2007

Skills and tools for Avionics stream students of AeSI

I am not an avionics guy, and anybody knowing me would not contest on the fact that I like avionics in any remote way. Well to me it was stream many of my friends and acquaintance in AeSI choose, while I harped on to propulsion.

Here I write a simple list of skill sets that are required in avionics stream. If your chosen stream is avionics. Make sure you have exposer to these skill sets. To me most of them are Greek!!

I have gathered them from the emails I have received about job offers (which sometime trangely included avionics)! Please don't loose heart if you don't know all the skills. But be prepared and use internet to browse and learn about this skills and tools.

As my Mathematics teacher in standard ten always said "Having knowledge is always useful", so I present this info to just arm you, rest is for you to explore.

* Excellent skills in understanding and implementation of processes mapping to RTCA/DO-178 B Objectives

* Working level domain knowledge of Avionics systems such as Engine Control, Displays, Landing Gear, etc

* For Senior positions - experience in evolving Processes & Standards for safety critical SDLC will be an added advantage in selection

* Ability to analyze Systems & Interface Requirements, partitioning details and evolve the methodology for follow on SDLC phases

* Hands on experience in development SRD, SDD & ICD using Design tools. Knowledge of at least one Design methodology and associated tool will be essential

* Coding experience adhering to Safety standards.

* Experience in Unit, SW & HW Integration Testing, and use of associated Tools, IDEs, Target Processors, Rigs and Development high quality Test Plans, Test Descriptions & Test Cases.

* Avionics tools – SCADE, Teamwork, Matlab, DOORS, PVCS, Clearcase, Cantata, Ada Test, LDRA, RTRT, VectorCast or equivalent

* Experience in performing Reviews of Safety Critical Software will be an added advantage.

* Exposure to Protocols design and testing – AFDX, ARINC, CAN, MIL 1553 B BSP, devise drivers, Ethernet, TCP/IP desirable

Avionics is domain that relies very much in electronics and computers, so hone your computer skills. C is the language of the choice for all you avionics fellow. If avionics is your domain, then learn that language early in your student life. It will make a huge difference.

And Honeywell should be your target company!!

Best of luck guys and gals!!! Be sure to mention the skills and tools that I might have missed in comments.

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How to prepare for interview?

How to prepare for interview?

You have sent your resume and the resume has served its purpose and you got a call from the HR to come for a discussion. So what now? How should you prepare for the interview? What can you do? How to prepare? What to prepare?

Well here are some general suggestions that I can summon from my experience in this department. First this is you should go thorough your résumé that you had send them. Look what have you told or written in that resume. This is from where most of the questions will be asked. This is the place from where the interviewer will begin interviewing you.

Most of the questions will begin with him asking you to tell about yourself or tell about the projects you have worked on. So prepare this first question well. If you can give a good reply to this, you will gain the confidence in yourself and can tackle any question that you might get after this. First question paves the way for a better and positive result, so prepare it well. If you listed design of centrifugal compressor as your project, then know about it. Re-read all the basic theory that you have for the topic. And know the salient features of the project.

If you have mentioned some project, know about that project, if it's Saras you have worked upon. Know which engine it is using. If compressor is your work area, know its working principle so that you can explain it to a lay person easily.

Your resume will be your main showcase. So have consistent answers to according to the resume you have sent. Sometimes we send a resume, embellishing some facts here and distorting some to look good for our advantage. That's ok. Everybody does that, but know what you have written in your resume when you go for that interview.

Always keep the sent resume in mind before you answer any questions. After the resumes, most other questions come up from your answers you give. So reply in a tactful way. While answering steer clear of topics that you know you won't be good in answering. The interviewer will just need one word to catch you.

I have attended and listened to many interviews and from those I have seen that it’s not the interviewer who has the control of the interview. It’s the interviewee who has the control. He is the one who can lead it to any successful completion. So answer in such a way that the next question is asked on topics that you are comfortable answering. Lead the interview. In one of the interview, upon seeing my resume, the interviewer asked me to explain my project on axial compressor design and as I was explaining I mentioned entropy. He caught that word and then I had to answer 4 questions on entropy among which how many types of entropy caught me? So while answering choose your words correctly.

This are some of the points I could think of today. More some other time. So what are your experience, share them in the comments....

Thursday, September 20, 2007

Letter to IISC bangalore by Mr. Bishnujee



I can’t hold this open letter back. So I am posting this open letter by Mr. Bishnujee Singh to The Registrar Indian Institute of Science, Bangalore. It concern regarding admission of AeSI professional graduates to IISc on the basis of AeSI degree alone.



Sub# Request for Admission for Aeronautical Society of India’s Engineering Graduates for ME program at IISc, Bangalore.


Honorable Lalitha John,

Sincere compliments of the day. It has been brought to my notice that your concerned reputed University has not been providing  admission to Professional Engineering Graduates from Aeronautical Society of India without additional BSc as basic qualification for ME Aeronautical Engineering program. It has been surprising to note that Aeronautical Society of India's Engineering Graduates have been admitted in Sheffield hallam University England for there MSc in Engineering Program ,Salford University MS in Aerospace Engineering program in England and AeSI has been listed as Approved University list from India on University of Miami,Florida,USA for MS in Aerospace Engineering program and all major Credential Evaluation bodies has given AeSI same status like any other Indian University in India. Boeing Company, USA accords AeSI Graduates as same status as ABET Accredited BSc in Aeronautical Engineering from USA University. AeSI Graduates in past have numerous laurels at IIT  Chennai last year Techfest 2006 and also recipient of First Ever Cayley Award 2003 in England by Royal Aeronautical Society, London.


I am aware that numerous staffs of IISc are on Academic and governing council of Aeronautical Society of India and rule being discriminatory against Professional Engineering Graduates of AeSI is ridiculous.


Currently on our kind request Vice Chancellor, Anna University has consented to admit AeSI Graduates for there ME program in Aerospace Engineering at Anna University, There is no need for applicants to have two Bachelor Degree's to be admitted for ME program at IISc and AeSI Degree alone is sufficient for ME program at IISc. Currently I am working with Engineers Mobility Forum team to get Indian Engineering Degrees to be recognized in USA and UK, European Union and PE Licensing Board. Till date no Indian Degree is recognized outside India by ABET, USA


I would be glad if you people in India could take necessary measures to correct the process of admission for Professional Graduates in Master's program and resolve this issue which has been pending for long time.


Kind regards



Compliments to Mr. Bishnujee for the efforts he is putting in.  


What do think on this issue? Please leave your comments.


"Can you offer a job to me?"

Yesterday someone emailed me this question, "Can you offer a job to me?"  Frankly when I received it, I politely asked the person what is his background and why he hasn't been able to get a job one, but this is what went through my mind after I shot my reply to him.


"Can you offer a job to me?"  The answer is NO? I don't have a company that I can you place you in. Even if I had, I am sorry I won't be helping you in the company. You know the rules. It’s not what you have or what you don't have, it’s not about the fellowship that you feel for your own kind. It’s not about both of us coming from AeSI. If I had a company, I will recruit only that person who is suitable for the job, and who can demonstrate that he/she brings something that I need for that particular position.


So fulfill that need and you have the job.


This is the mantra for all the job listing that you see and will see in future.


A friend of mine will be conducting interviews for requirement in his company. Now he is looking for competent propulsion guys and his main aim is to get one guy who fits the bill and brings what he wants. He can recruit you? But he might not? He might call you for the interview since you are an aesi guy!! You might get the first preference since this pleasure he can bestow on you being an AeSI fellow like him, but that doesn't guarantee your recruitment.....  However lenient and helpful he might be, and however genuine your needing-a-break is..... His work, project and client requirements are the first thing that he will consider once he and you are in the interview room. So don’t bet you chances on being an aesi guy or on sympathy. That only works for politicians.... For you, there is just one mantra.......   Show him what you are bringing to him and how your skills will help him develop his business. How little training you will need? And How much value you will bring to his clients and increase his productivity.



If you can do this my friend, you are recruited.


Related post: 50 common interview questions


Wednesday, September 19, 2007

Wisdom of Dr Harinarayan Kota

I was thinking of writing to you all about what I got from my stint at NAL, National Aerospace Labs. So while thinking about the theme, I shot one email to my friends who have also worked in these prestigious organization just after graduating. Just like me, every one had a positive experience and I liked the reply from my friend kishore and I liked it so much that I want to just copy and paste the whole thing he wrote. I was inspired and hope you too will.


But before that a little background, unlike me, kishore worked under two bosses while in NAL. So for him it was two stints in NAL. But the one he mentioned was the one when he worked under Dr Harinarayan Kota, Director, ADA and Project Director, LCA Project!!  And this is what he wrote me in the mail.


1)  I learnt some basics of management. Or I can say I learnt about the joy which you get after successfully managing and finishing the task.


2)  Second thing I learnt from him is that, ball should never be in your court. It should always in the other person’s court; this shows that you are doing your part.


3) One more thing he once told me and later showed me also that no one is that important, important is the responsibilities and the task given to you. And to finish your own responsibilities, many times you have to tell others that they are important.



The fact that I liked the most is the third point. What about you?


Wednesday, September 12, 2007

Resume Tips and Job Hunting Advice from the Emurse Blog

Resume Tips and Job Hunting Advice from the Emurse Blog


It feels like that I am obsessed with this resume thing, so here's yet another post on how to write an effective resume.


In fact let me share the real reason, my cousin is here with me and he is looking for job and so I am fixing up his resume and so venturing into these topics so I am sharing the good articles that I find along the way with you all.


So this article that I stumbled upon is also a good one and raises some very good points that are not only useful to my cousin but to the members of OURAeSI too. You got to read the whole article to get to the 10 points discussed there while I want to point out on the 4 points I thing that are very relevant to us.



  • Size does not always matter

I like the idea of ... making two resumes, one short and one long and bringing the long one to the interview.


  • Do not use personal pronouns or contractions. Never say “I” or “me.”


  • Keep it electronic friendly


And the most important point I felt was


  • Know Your Strengths. If you have a gap in your work experience that is difficult to explain, but have great skills and training, consider a “functional” format rather than a chronological one. Adjust your resume to represent you in the best possible way.



Read the whole thing at




Tuesday, September 11, 2007


My last post was on my tips on writing a good resume that will bring results. Well today I stumbled upon this article which tell you about the 10 mistakes that you shouldn't do with your resume. Some of the points were usual that i have covered in my earlier posts ( Most of the tips are relevant for a fresher’s and the person who is writing his first resume. Do read it. A article not to be missed if you are hunting for a job!!!



Click on this link to get all my posts relevant to resumes:


NEWSFLASH : Royal Aeronautical Society of UK to open office in Bangalore

Bangalore, Sept 01: UK-based Royal Aeronautical Society (RAS) has chosen Bangalore to establish its first branch office in the country, said a top official of the Aeronautical Society of India.


"The Bangalore branch of RAS which will be its first in India, will be established soon,'' said V Thulasidas, President of the Aeronautical Society of India and CMD National Aviation Company of India (NACIL) after signing an MoU between ASI and RAS here on Saturday. More RAS branches would be established throughout India later, he said.


David Marshall, President of the Royal Aeronautical Society UK said with this pact ASI becomes a corporate partner of RAS and vice-versa. RAS has 25 specialist groups in all spheres of Aeronautical and Space Sciences, he said, adding that the MoU env isages exchange of technical and other information relevant to these two areas. The agreement would entail sponsoring joint scientific activities including conferences and workshops and also holding of at least two joint events in India annually for which role of each society would be defined, he said.


Under the MoU, the two societies will exchange their respective journals and magazines and encourage their members to publish research papers in their respective publications.



Monday, September 10, 2007

Resume tips from experience

Last week in OURAeSI club, there were 3+ messages related to job requirement... I hope everyone has seen them and appropriate candidates must have forwarded their resumes by now. But I was wondering how many of them had done it in the right way? I mean what was your checklist before you shot that email carrying your resume for the requirement listed?


Please do let me know in the comments.


Although I haven't sent my resume for a year now, but a year back, when I did, I had this 4 point checklist before I sent my resume to any job requirement.


Is the resume latest?

Do I have the cover letter?

Do my resume match the requirement or needs little adjustments?

Do I know anything about the company I am applying?


Let me elaborate on these points a little bit more. Is my resume the latest is the first thing I checked. Most of the time, it never was. I had to scour my resume back from the sent folders of my email account. Or from the my documents folder where it stayed unattended. Sure it always got updated. The areas which got modified were the dates of previous work experience. I quantified my work experience as 1.5 year (meaning 1 year 6 months), that changed as I progressed month wise. So I needed to include that and give my latest experience figures!  While in NAL, the skills section also got updated to highlight the skills I have picked up since my last resume update. And same thing happened to Project listing. Sometimes skills and projects not needed in for the current requirements were trimmed and re-adjusted.


"Do I have a cover letter?" was the second thought. To this I will emphasize from experience, I know that my all resumes that went with a cover letter brought me a response!! There was not a single instance that my resume with a cover letter didn't get me a call for the interview. I think having cover letter is must.


You can't put everything on your resume and you can't use fancy colors or highlight your resume too much for the risk of looking unprofessional, here cover letter comes handy and useful. A cover letter is one place where you can highlight the specific areas that you want your recruiter to see when they look at your resume. It serves as a good introduction to your resume! So never let a resume go by without a good cover letter accompanying it!


While in NAL, i did various kind of work, some of the work came under design like design of mixed flow compressor, some came under software development where I developed VB applications to do various design calculations and other got into the category of analysis, where using analysis packages to get result was the main responsibility. So having worked on varied kind of work, I had this standard resume, where I listed all my work, major, minor, design related, analysis related and software development related and Every time I had to send a resume, I used to adjust my projects to the requirements, plucking projects and its description from this master standard project-only resume.


Sometimes one project covered and overlapped many different categories. Like I had this project "design of mixed flow centrifugal compressor impeller”; now this had design and during the project I have to develop a VB application to design the compressor. So this project encompassed 2 categories. And having a standard projects-only resume solved my problem. When I said I needed to modify my resume for the appropriate requirement, I meant pushing the project related to the requirement up in the list and including more details to it. Removing the once that were irrelevant, trimming some which do not add much value. This way the resume had the consistency and I was at peace that I haven’t missed any project.


Sometimes, if the requirement was of design nature then the design projects were pushed up and I hightled the points on this project. Even in the skills section of the resume, the skills related to design got highlighted and were emphasized.  Sometime when I knew my work experience directly matched with the requirement; then I made sure that I highlighted the project in my cover letter as well.


Knowing the company I was applying for! Be sure to know what the requirement is and then use Google to search for the company you are applying for. It’s after this that you should craft your cover letter and update your resume. Your cover letter and resume should reflect that you know about the company you are applying for and are aware of the requirements!!


A resume cannot guarantee you a job offer, but a great resume introduced with a good cover letter can help you get an interview.


For more info on how to craft a resume see this excellent link


I am sure you will add your tips in the comments that I might have missed. So feel free to comment!!


Thursday, September 06, 2007

What are your AeSI eureka and rude shock subjects?

Today I was asking myself what were the best exams in my AeSI tenure? Which exams I was very confident and I did well and got out well. Knowing AeSI , you won't be surprised that the list can’t be long so here's my short list of the subjects which I felt of clearing 100% while getting out of the exam hall and did so. I call them Eureka subjects!!


  • Thermodynamics
  • Strength of material
  • Workshop technology
  • Propulsion 3
  • Aerodyanamiocs-1
  • Mathematics -iii
  • Mechanics of fluid


That’s it. Honestly I didn't expect the list to make it to number 7!!! Let me tell you that these were not the only subjects that I felt I will pass when I came out of the exams hall. There were many times when I had these feeling that I will pass but these were the subjects in which my confidence of passing and AeSI's confidence in me coincided and I cleared the subjects!!!



What about the other way round? Now let me list out of the subjects that I was absolutely sure of passing and AeSI gave me the rude shock!!!


  • Principles of flight (not one time but twice, giving me a teasing 47 and 49 marks respectively )


  • VMD - this is the biggest shock aesi ever gave me. Expecting 80 and got measly 38!! Even to this day I can't figure how? Even a re-checking request didn't swell the marks above 38, but surely gobbled my dad's 100 bucks that I sent for rechecking!!


  • Workshop technology - when I gave it the first time. Anyways this was my second exam of the AeSI that I gave. And incidentally this was the first tremor of aesi in my life J




That's it! In the other exams I could ascertain the failures to my mistakes and in some case I am not sure but I give AeSI benefit of doubt!!


The subject in which I did most blunders were Mathematics -II its the subject of blunders for me. I intend to write something about this in future post,.


Anyway do let me know what were your eureka subjects and rude-shock subjects during your term in AeSI. Would love to know!!



Wednesday, September 05, 2007

Suggestions for AeSI improvement - highlights of aesi's enews

Ok ok I know that PDF didn't get published. As i post most of my entries via email. That PDF didn't go through the blogger platform and you weren't able to see the document. So here's the link for the 2 specific articles that I wanted to point your attention.


The articles are from Air Cmde Raghubir Singh (Retd) FAeSI- 732 and Dr G Madhavan Nair President Aeronautical Society of India.


Both of them deal with the improvement of aesi for the betterment of the students!


The articles assumed significance because of the fact that while in the AGM in cochin Air Cmde Raghubir Singh  gave a presentation which has really awaken other members on the plight of the students and everyone there did talked about improving it for the students. And there were questions raised towards Mr. Bhaita to answer. If you were there you could have seen how uncomfortable Mr bhaita became while answering.


So this articles getting published in enews is one step showing that people are listening and they haven't forgotten about us. So friends, this AGM lets us prepare our case strong and give a presentation telling the story from our (the student) side.


I know many of you might be thinking that this is bullshit and this will never work out, but let me tell you, if it doesn't work out its because of  you people who betray us. It’s because of you, who can't stand by your fellow aesians! So if you can't contribute positively and can't stand with us, I say you have no right to have a negative opinion about it!


Anyway here's the highlight of articles


  • The question papers should be set from the syllabus-taking into account the depth possible based on the coverage.


  • The syllabus while remaining on the elite IIT pattern should also take into account all India university syllabi –without diluting the our standards..


  • Practical training, experiments & testing should form part of AMAeSI syllabus. Perhaps 50% marks can be catered for these.


  • Project work, seminars & internal assessment under the accredited guides can be included


  • Further rationalization of question paper setting so that good student can pass the examinations. Still out of syllabus questions continue to be set in our examinations.


  • The question papers should be such that it tests the students for knowledge as per the syllabus & not the lack of it by post- graduate level questions


  • It should be borne in mind that the students opting for AMAeSI, are either in service or students mostly in the 50-65% PCM marks bracket at 10+2 level. Without lowering our standards, the question papers must be such that these can be answered & does not result in dismal pass percentage


  • The question paper setting, answer book checking & moderation should be in rotation at the institutions or by the Fellows of the AeSI.


  • Model answers by the paper setters & marking system should available.


  • It would be quite advantageous if subjects having greater coverage & depth are spread over a longer periods for better comprehension. For example subjects like Applied Maths-I, Introduction to Aeronautics can be telescoped over at least one year period.


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