A quick update……..
This is the first time I have seen some good stuff in enews related to the student’s side of AeSI!!
Please do read the PDF document attached!!! The fruits of what has happened in AGM are beginning to show and hope this year’s AGM with Mr Bhowmick’s initiative; we can put our views and concerns!!
Don’t forget to read the document!!!
In response to my previous post ( http://my-aesi.blogspot.com/2007/08/three-things-you-must-give-thought.html ) Mr. Gaju Korde has pointed me to another important point that I missed. Here is what he said...
"The field or the department. One should think a while before joining whether this is the field where I see myself in say next few years. I have seen people going to each and every place where somebody is interested in hiring trainees and join there just because they got there!. Please do not do that. It is this experience which will prove beneficial in your professional career ahead so choose it wisely!!"
Mr. Gaju Korde has raised a right point regarding the importance of field and department before deciding on your training mission!! Be absolutely sure where you see yourself in the next few years, before your clutch on any training offer! See what’s appropriate for your chosen filed. If you are an Avionics guys then going into training in propulsion related lab won't help you much. Yes you will have the luxury to write "6 or 1 year experience in such and such ". But ask yourself is it relevant experience that matches your academic and chosen stream!! May be the electrical lab where they use lab-view, and test avionics instruments would be more correct choice for an avionics guys!!
Also when you set your mind on getting a training, set two goals in your mind that you will come out of this one year or 6 months latter, with more knowledge and skills than your have entered. Promise yourself that you will cultivate yours skills as well as deliver quality, professional work to your mentor while you are under him!!
These two pledges if you can make to yourself and keep them in your mind, nothing can stop you from shining like a star!!
Thank you Mr. Gaju Korde for pointing out the important point, hope to hear more from you!!
I don’t know if you read Mr. Shiladitya Bhowmick’s email. But her I am posting it here in myaesi blog so that who read this instead of the group mails can come forward and be a part of the discussuion.
I must appreaciate the efforts of Mr. Shiladitya and I think it’s the right time now for getting a draft a document and make consolidated effort to present student’s view at the AeSI AGM!!
So people, come on. Come forward with your suggestions and views!! Its your future that they are playing with!!
Shiladitya Bhowmick wrote :
Hello Everyone,
Hope all of are doing great in life and work!! This time AGM will be at Chennai in December. I am writing this letter to the group to discuss few of the serious issues relating AESI's administrative procedures. I had been following Mr. Sukhbinder's & some other mails and I highly appreciate their concern for AESI.
As the subject of the mail tells half of the story. But I would like to elaborate it with some case studies. There is no proper feedback from
POINT 1: One of the Graduate got training in Air
It's not even that some one else is waiting in Queue for Air-India training...its not even that AESI has to give stipend for the candidate..its not even that Air-India is having any problem with his training..Then can Mr.Goyal give us a proper justification of his actions and trying to stop him to make a career out of his own efforts!!
Mr.Thulasidas is the new President of AESI and he must be aware of all the whereabouts of AESI .. Is it believable that a single opening hasn't come to an AESIian in 15 months in Air-India and the guy hasn't been eligible to apply in Air-India..but this is fact!!
Of what I have heard ,there were 20-25 Grads. last year..I would be very keen to know how many Grads.has been assisted by AESI post their degree to get a Job/Training!!!
POINT 2: A GRADUATE called up
Whom are we suppossed to call ....If Mr.Goyal is so bored / disinterested in holding the secretary position of AESI , why is he taking this pain for AESI!!
there are numerous people who are very efficient to take care of the proceedings.There had been numerous incidents like this where he behaved in a very rude manner and i don't have to tell that as i believe every1 must have experienced/experiencing that in their AESI period!
POINT 3: Why is there no proper response/feedback from
POINT 4:Another GRAD called up HO regarding his training after his degree.See the response they give from there --"AREE YAAR..TUJHE BHI LINE BHI LAGA DUNGA !! "
another Grad calls up Mr. goyal to re- confirm the urgent letter he has sent to HO regarding admission in MIT .He says-"What u want me to do? TO GO TO POST OFFICE AND COLLECT IT FOR U??"
Is this what AESI all about..?? All AeSI guys had been working very hard to finish their degree and after all this what he get to hear is this!! Aren't they making fun of it and is this a kind of behaviour AESI officials are supposed to do with a Member of AESI..!! Student community make AESI and so who has given them the authority to behave and tamper the image of AESI..!!
POINT 5: Why are AESI students restricted from getting a normal entry into IITs,MIT?? Every1 knows what has happened this time regarding admission at MIT,Anna Univ.(Just to let guys know that most of the national level semninar at MIT is sponsored by AESI )My question is why AESI guys has to struggle in every sphere just to convince people that AESI is a VALID degree.Wouldn't the situation been better if AESI "GOVERNING COUNCIL" takes some actions regarding this!
POINT 6: AESI hands a Life Membership card with Sig. of Mr.Goyal after completion of degree.it is supposed to be meant to attend any meeting of AESI...etc.There are instances where the guy was restricted from getting into the AESI International Seminar as they believe he is not a member of AESI.We would like to request AESI not to take the pain of making the CARD which is for no good !!!
POINT 7:As far as i know,Mr.Goyal is not attending any AGM since few years..is he too afraid to face the students or what??
SUGGESTIONS:
*All alumni of AESI should come up for the cause and make a council (in co-operation with AESI) which would look for the future growth of student members after their AESI degree.In this regard ,I would like to thank Mr.Bishnujee SIngh,Mr.Raghubir Singh,and numerous others for their unconditional efforts they are doing silently for the betterment of AESI Students.
*All Grad. members should have the right to know the proceeding of AESI..how much revenue is been collected..how much is spent on officials..and how much for betterment of AESI..
I would like to throw some light on a very interesting figure Mr.Sukhbinder put few months back..that 75% - 80% of AESI revenue comes from the Students and only 9% is spent on Stipend ..where is the rest of the revenue ??
THIS LETTER IS JUST A DRAFT VERSION..I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO THE FEEDBACK /RESPONSE FROM ALL THE AVENUES OF AESI COMMUNITY --ALUMNI'S ..STUDENT MEMBERS..IMMEDIATE GRADS...
PUT UP ALL YOUR FEEDBACKS/SUGGESTIONS AND THEN WE CAN MAKE AN INTEGRATED VERSION OF THIS AND THAT WILL BE ADDRESSED DURING THIS AGM.
NOW AESI modified syllabus has come with the backing of AICTE and there are more students making their membership but as far as i see...with the continuing trend in the administration....things doesnt look much encouraging..all the youngsters after their +2 might not know all this & getting enrolled with high expectations & hopes are heading to a Dead-End...!!
A quick little reminder. From this weekend on I am beginning a weekend how-to series on this blog, so check back soon, where I will be posting my first weekend how to article.
My main purpose of the page is to kick start you people (the visitors of the blog) on things that we as aero engineer need or do. I will be delving into my NAL experience and will come up with how to lessons that are relevant, helpful and informative!
Make sure you check back and if you have any suggestion or any how-to idea, do write in your comments.
I am basically propulsion guy, but I will try to include aesi aerodynamics as well as avionics stuff from time to time.
I have already written about this topic earlier post but I am rewriting it again to emphasize on all the 3 points!!
Time:
Time is the most important parameter! Training in a organization, be it NAL, GTRE, or any other is not a part time work. It’s a commitment of your time. Its a two way process, you learn there and they get some work done. So first thing one should consider while thinking of training is how much time you have? Will my studies suffer? If you have subjects to study, i don't recommend training, because whatever you may think at first, it always hinders latter. So give it a serious thought while embarking on these lines.
Motivation:
Motivation comes second, if software is all you want to learn during training then you better go to so many institutes that are cropping up. They will take some money but you will have the flexibility of time and you will learn more professionally. In my experience in NAL and GTRE, you have to do all the learning by yourself. Coming for work experience as motivation, then its OK! But be prepared to do mundane works, and do some work that you thought are not for you to do. It’s not always that you are going to sit under AC with computer, sometimes pushing a cart of junk, sometime, just sitting in the library, re-reading something for your boss, or searching Google for an obscure dealers name are some of the work that you will regularly come across.
Boss:
Yes your boss, the one under whom you will be working, the person who will be assigning you work is the third important factor that you need to look into. It’s an external factor but if your boss is a workaholic, you will benefit. If he is lazy you will dwindle. Training always happens when you are new in your career and getting a good mentor at this stage is great way to leap frog in your chosen field. So before you embark on the training, just like your friends choose your boss carefully! It really makes a difference.
Well these three things should come before you enter the training program!!!! More next time.... please leave in your comments!!!
Previous post link: http://my-aesi.blogspot.com/2006/01/3-things-that-you-must-have-before-you.html
For those you, who might not know, after AeSI, I did training in NAL under Dr. Ramamurthy and during that time I wrote many blog entries though my reliance mobile phone. This is one of those….
This might be my first entry or a rarest entry on my experience in NAL. Well the three things are work hard; no work is small and be a delivery boy. That is, deliver what is expected of you. Come to an organization like this and you will realize the importance of aesi. You'll realize how it has lifted you without your knowing.
...You'll realize the truth when someone says "Gadhe ko ghora banati hai aesi" Don't want to say that AeSI's way is right but after coming and hearing by your own ears, you see the truth in word that Mr. Bishnujee uses for aesi graduates. Specialist! Yes it’s true. Maybe seeing the results and facing uncertain exams don't inspire this feeling, but trust me; once you are in this side of the river you will definitely see my point. Anyway hope here's wishing that the reforms aesi is doing now do bear fruits and do make one feel proud of your degree while doing it.
Well this was my post in the http://my-aesi.blogspot.com in January 2006. As you will notice the post is not complete. Since at that time I had reliance phone and I used it to send my posts via its mobile internet and it never allowed more than 160 character, so while sending posts with breaks, the flow broke and I missed out the points. So i thought of revisiting the topic.
As mentioned earlier, working hard, do all work required of you and being a delivery boy was what I learnt from NAL. I have touched about the realization of the knowledge that i gathered during AeSI only after coming to NAL. But I missed out the delivery boy stuff.
Well by that I meant. When you are given a task, deliver the result not an excuse. As my previous mentor in NAL used to say, "Give me results not excuses!" Push yourself here in your training days and you will reap rich rewards! Whenever we mentioned that we don't this software, he always chided us “You are young, learn it and deliver!!" So NAL made cemented the delivery in me.
So folks if you are doing training at any of the institution, be diligent and make the most of the time you are there. Sometimes the tasks assigned to you might look un-engineer type, mundane and plain simple, but remember AeSI might have given you the aero skills and knowledge but the social, writing and other skills you will develop here in your training working among real people, real work and in real world!!
Please share your experience in comments!!!
To read the original post click these links
http://my-aesi.blogspot.com\2006\01\three-things-ive-learned-in-nal-part.html
http://my-aesi.blogspot.com\2006\01\three-things-ive-learned-in-nal-part_17.html
http://my-aesi.blogspot.com\2006\01\three-things-ive-learned-in-nal.html
Question: What do I do about the gaps in my resume when I traveled or couldn’t find a job etc?
Answer: Talk about them well. A gap is really bad if you spent your days on your sofa watching cartoons. But if you watched cartoons to prepare for your next career move into children’s programming, then you sound focused and driven. Same TV, same sofa, two different stories.
People don’t want to hear your life story. This is good news for people with sofa stints. In almost all cases, you learn something during a gap. Tell a great story about what you’ve learned and where you’re going, and your gap won’t get center stage. Leaving out details is not about lying; it’s about telling good stories.
This is what got my attention today. It sounds interesting. Well in AeSI some of us have to answer a question of this kind during the interview. So thought of sharing this suggestion with you all.
I think that is a good suggestion, so for those who are studying, apart from the study you should also begin doing something. Maybe you can learn some CAD or FEA software. But always do something that will help you in future. But be cautious, AeSI is a full time study job, so don't neglect your studies.
Other things that you can do while studying is look for competitions arranged by various education institutes and AeSI and participate in them, also if you have access to computer learn the software’s. You don't need high end catia to begin; you can always begin with excel and ms office. They will come handy when you enter the work arena. They are as useful as any other.
Improve your communication skills, written and spoken. One can do away with less technical knowledge but communication skills are the ones which you must have to succeed in today’s world, so hone them, cultivate them early....
"Thanks to geocities for keeping them so long...."
This is what I wrote in my last post when I was discussing the websites that I have build while I was studying for my aero engineering degree. But as I checked the websites and was trying to resurrect them I was shocked to see that the sites pages have been removed. Geocities has silently without warning removed all the pages that constituted my sites. This was real shock as somewhere in last year I checked the sites and they were there but now geocities have reclaimed the space.
:( I am feeling sorry as I really liked the stuff I made but hey nothing can put down an AeSI guy, so I will reinvent the whole stuff and bring everything back again and now with a better avatar.
My knowledge of web design has increased many folds, my writing skills have improved so I will surely resurrect the site and just now i have this idea that the site will be build with the technology christened as "Ruby on Rails!"
Its yesterday only that I have brought a book on begging ruby on rails and I guess this non-profit site that I am going to develop for aero engineers around the world will be the skill tester for the new skills that I am going to learn!!
I hope to rope in my good friend kis in this so that the site doesn't die a silent death that my aeroengineer.cjb.net did!!
I know I have promised to begin a series of sorts with this blog and I am surely on my way towards that.. Just have patience. I have lots of work in my hand and I will deal with each one by one...
But rest assured something useful is coming to this blog.
Well a quick update on the aesi-hiding-facts thing! I have emailed them and had got this response
“We appreciate your views however now the decision is so. Thanks, Secy(adm)”
Well if this is the new decision then I have to say its bad decision and this will be a step backwards for Aeronautical Society of India!
Since the introduction of the new syllabus, sign were indicating that Aeronautical society of India is moving in right direction, but this step of withholding the information of passed vs. appeared candidates is definitely a step towards non-transparency.
Every one wants a transparent organization and steps should be towards that goal and not backward. What do you feel? What should we do?
For those who came late and don’t know what this is all about click this link
http://my-aesi.blogspot.com/2007/08/aesi-hidding-information.html
Most of my post you might have noticed begin with this word well. I don't know why but I kind of like the word i guess... hey this is not the thing that you open this blog for.
So let’s start. Let me ask you a question, have you participated any of the events organized by aesi? Or better still answer me are you aware of any events that aesi organizes?
Well during my time in AeSI, I wasn't very aware, though I had net access and I was regular visitor of the aesi website but somehow I always came to know of aesi's program in my city just a week after it was over.
So what is your Information quotient (IQ) for aesi events? Do let me know.
Why this is required because if you aren't involved in your degree you have no chance of loving it and enjoying it. You should seek and then will you find and enjoy the process of being an engineer.
Did you know? During my aesi times I floated two websites apart from the OURAeSI club!! Both these sites are still there but my neglect has brought the best out them. I think if they would have been living things and not cyber bits and bytes, them must have rotted and smelled foul!!! But thank god they are websites. You can even see and look at them. I will give the urls in my next post....... well both the sites were of two different region, one dealt and told about the careers in aviation and the other about the aero engineer stuff...
I hope to reviews these sites. I hope that by the year end i will have a definite something for this websites.
Once I give out the link, I would like to know your suggestions on what can be done to make them functional again.
Thanks to geocities for keeping them so long....
Okay then wait for tomorrow will I will send you the link